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>> i think he's -- >> so was sarah palin. >> well, yeah. i think that there's always a lot of sparkle there. joe biden has been hampered in his whole career by the lampooning of him. it's almost like you play a game of -- i'm thinking of the right sport, 8 ball. you're winning the game, you put the 8 ball in the pocket. you scratch. all of a sudden the whole game is gone. he'll have a great evening and then he'll make a comment about the middle class is buried. >> tonight when that line comes up, what does he do? that line is supposed to come up. congressman ryan is supposed to confront vice president joe biden on that line. you said they were buried. >> he has to reply. he has to say because of the unfair tax system. he has to be very particular. i would do this. i'd play offense. i'd do it nicely. the genius of governor romney last week was that he masked his lack of did he have ferchs with cord yalt at this and civility. he talked about the 20th anniversary, this isn't a very romantic advise. he called him mr. president. no cheap shots l
>> i think he's -- >> so was sarah palin. >> well, yeah. i think that there's always a lot of sparkle there. joe biden has been hampered in his whole career by the lampooning of him. it's almost like you play a game of -- i'm thinking of the right sport, 8 ball. you're winning the game, you put the 8 ball in the pocket. you scratch. all of a sudden the whole game is gone. he'll have a great evening and then he'll make a comment about the middle class is buried. >>...
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most recently against sarah palin four years ago. for ryan seen here arriving for a walk through of the debate stage, it's a chance to pick up where mitt romney left off, though it comes with a great deal of risk against a cage any veteran. carrie dan has been following the vice president and ron mott has been keeping tabs on paul ryan. carrie, we'll start with you. we know the pressure is something the vice president has faced before and that brings us back to 2008. but is that a concern for him going into tonight? >> we know joe biden talked to the president the day after the president president's debate. and he knows what the stakes are going into this debate tonight. now, remember four years ago, he was against sarah palin. he mostly wanted an even perform arranges not to make any verb miss cues. and that was something that a lot of observers thought he did really well.and that was someth lot of observers thought he did really well. he did at least one mock debate every night of this debate camp that he was in with chris van holl
most recently against sarah palin four years ago. for ryan seen here arriving for a walk through of the debate stage, it's a chance to pick up where mitt romney left off, though it comes with a great deal of risk against a cage any veteran. carrie dan has been following the vice president and ron mott has been keeping tabs on paul ryan. carrie, we'll start with you. we know the pressure is something the vice president has faced before and that brings us back to 2008. but is that a concern for...
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. >> did paul ryan speak to sarah palin for any advice? >> he did not. the truth is over the last few days he's been focused on his preparations. as you may know from your experience in washington, he often puts on head phones, does a lot of reading. he hasn't been doing a lot of phone calls. >> and a lot of p90x. dan senor, thanks for getting up early. see you tonight. wall street appears to be rebounding as weekly jobless claims come out. market rundown is next. plus paul ryan's other opponent. the guy who's trying to take ryan's house seat in wisconsin. he came here to danville, kentucky, because he's looking for a debate of his own. first today's trivia question. which former vice presidents ran against one another for president in a general election? give me both answers. tweet me @chucktodd and daily rundown. first correct answer gets a follow thursday from us. i gave birth to my daughter on may 18th, five days later, i had a massive heart attack. bayer aspirin was the first thing the emts gave me. now, i'm on a bayer aspirin regimen. [ male announ
. >> did paul ryan speak to sarah palin for any advice? >> he did not. the truth is over the last few days he's been focused on his preparations. as you may know from your experience in washington, he often puts on head phones, does a lot of reading. he hasn't been doing a lot of phone calls. >> and a lot of p90x. dan senor, thanks for getting up early. see you tonight. wall street appears to be rebounding as weekly jobless claims come out. market rundown is next. plus paul...
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now, when biden went up against sarah palin four years ago, she had an advantage in that nobody thought she could string a sentence together. now they're much more evenly matched. everybody knows paul ryan is a capable debater. last week during the presidential debate, romney had that advantage because everybody expected obama to win. so the expectations are more even in this case and that should benefit the incumbent. >> i want to bring in james clyburn. always good to have you on the program. good amonmorning, congressman. do you do p 90 x with paul ryan in the house gym? >> no, i don't use the house gym much. and i have not seen the pictures. but i understand he works out a whole lot, even run marathons. >> seriously let's talk about the debate. you're a good sport. your colleague chris van holland is helping him to prep, joe biden. what's his strategy tonight, will he try to land some blowses so some? >> i hope he would just be joe. i know skrjoe biden very well, i can tell you paul ryan is no match for joe biden. >> here's the critique from the huffington "post." ryan is always sur
now, when biden went up against sarah palin four years ago, she had an advantage in that nobody thought she could string a sentence together. now they're much more evenly matched. everybody knows paul ryan is a capable debater. last week during the presidential debate, romney had that advantage because everybody expected obama to win. so the expectations are more even in this case and that should benefit the incumbent. >> i want to bring in james clyburn. always good to have you on the...
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palin went rogue, rhine has gone vague. phil, gop strategist extraordinaire has paul ryan gone vague and if he is vague how does that play out on the debate stage? >> what a setup. thank you for lowering expectations for congressman ryan in the debate. >> you're welcome. you're welcome. >> look, tonight's going to be about a fuld choice, i think mitt romney did a very good job in the first act laying out a lot of specific ideas about his plans that frankly peep hadn't had a chance to see in an unfiltered way. this is paul ryan's night to do the same thing, paint a difficult investigation around taxes, fiscal cliff, growth, urn certainty in the economy. debates are a great way to tease out issues in specific. i think if the debate revolves around a look over the shoulder, that's probably a losing proposition for the democrats, if it involves a fooshd lorwardg program it's going to provide a robust -- >> you think paul ryan's got unprecedented mastery of fact and he's been studying diligently for the debate and i expect he'll
palin went rogue, rhine has gone vague. phil, gop strategist extraordinaire has paul ryan gone vague and if he is vague how does that play out on the debate stage? >> what a setup. thank you for lowering expectations for congressman ryan in the debate. >> you're welcome. you're welcome. >> look, tonight's going to be about a fuld choice, i think mitt romney did a very good job in the first act laying out a lot of specific ideas about his plans that frankly peep hadn't had a...
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four years ago all the praesh pressure was on sarah palin. what a diffence four years could make. when he steps onto the stage tonight, the vice president could be carrying the fate of the entire campaign in his hands. and all of the pressure will be on him. we're joined by perry bay caan and michael sharer of "time." the new issue appears on newsstands tomorrow. perry, paul ryan and the republicans have been vigilant about managing expectations for his performance tonight. let's take a listen. >> this is his first time. joe biden has been doing this since the 1800s. he will do a solid job. >> joe biden has been on this stage many times before. it's my first time, so, sure, it's a nervous situation. >> now, i know it will come as a shock to you, perry, when i tell you that the information we just heard from messrs. probus and ryan is categorically untrue. he's debated eight times in his career as an elected official, but i guess that's the problem with mr. ryan, he reaches for the falsehood quicker than he can cut meals on wheels. >> both of these candidates have a lot to expect t
four years ago all the praesh pressure was on sarah palin. what a diffence four years could make. when he steps onto the stage tonight, the vice president could be carrying the fate of the entire campaign in his hands. and all of the pressure will be on him. we're joined by perry bay caan and michael sharer of "time." the new issue appears on newsstands tomorrow. perry, paul ryan and the republicans have been vigilant about managing expectations for his performance tonight. let's take...
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remember what his most effective moment in the sarah palin debate was? it was the moment when he turned on her and brought up the experience of losing his wife, his first wife and son and infant daughter and what it was like to be raising his sons alone. it was a very personal moment. it was like exactly what you're talking about. instead of talking about his grandmother -- >> what was was the public policy implacation? >> she was claiming about the struggles of average working women. he said don't tell me about that. as a man i experienced that. he personalizes everything. he talks about his family more than any politician in america. he will -- if he doesn't talk about his mother, father, children, grandchildren, and grandparents tonight i will be shocked. >> you will hear ryan talk about his mom. sha he is in florida, currently on medicare. i think you will hear lots of family stories from ryan and biden. >> how does ryan normally talk? does he talk in that interesting -- he gave a good speech at the convention but it's almost -- >> a gatling gun. >>
remember what his most effective moment in the sarah palin debate was? it was the moment when he turned on her and brought up the experience of losing his wife, his first wife and son and infant daughter and what it was like to be raising his sons alone. it was a very personal moment. it was like exactly what you're talking about. instead of talking about his grandmother -- >> what was was the public policy implacation? >> she was claiming about the struggles of average working...